Esther Smith Sits Down With The Pilot TV Podcast To Discuss Trying Season 5, Plus X-Men '97 And MobLand DramaHollywood
7 Jul 2026, 1:19 am (45 days ago)· 3

Esther Smith Sits Down With The Pilot TV Podcast To Discuss Trying Season 5, Plus X-Men '97 And MobLand Drama

In episode #396 of the Pilot TV Podcast, Trying star and executive producer Esther Smith talks Season 5, while the hosts dig into The Dark, Human Vapor and X-Men '97 Season 2, alongside the week's Tom Hardy and Taylor Sheridan news.

Esther Smith, star and executive producer of Apple TV's comedy Trying, joined this week's Pilot TV Podcast for a chat about the show's fifth season, sitting down with hosts James Dyer, Steph Seelan and Boyd Hilton in a segment that runs from the 38:15 to 48:52 mark of the episode.

Hunting for shows that escaped the World Cup takeover

Beyond the Trying conversation, the hosts spent time picking through this week's TV schedules trying to find programmes that haven't been completely swallowed up by the World Cup. That search turned up a Scottish crime drama called The Dark on ITV, a remake of the Japanese supernatural story Human Vapor now streaming on Netflix, and the long-awaited second season of X-Men '97 on Disney+, all of which the hosts worked through with visible enthusiasm.

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Planning TV-themed getaways and catching up on the week's news

The episode also finds room for something a little different, with James Dyer, Steph Seelan and Boyd Hilton planning out their ideal TV-themed holidays before turning to this week's television news. That includes Tom Hardy's reverse ferret on MobLand, with Hardy now set to return for Season 3 following a bust-up with producers. The hosts also dive into some notably spicy recent comments from Yellowstone TV universe architect Taylor Sheridan about the current state of film and television.

Where to watch or listen

This is episode number 396 of the Pilot TV Podcast, available to watch in full as a video or to stream as audio through any podcast app of choice. Listeners can also subscribe to Pilot TV+, which unlocks an extra episode every week, early access to new episodes, and an ad-free listening experience.

Questions & Answers

Who was the main guest on this episode of the Pilot TV Podcast?
Esther Smith, star and executive producer of Apple TV's Trying, was the main guest.
Where in the episode is the Esther Smith conversation?
It runs from the 38:15 to 48:52 mark of the episode.
Which shows did the hosts discuss this week?
They talked about the Scottish crime drama The Dark on ITV, the Netflix remake Human Vapor, and the second season of X-Men '97 on Disney+.
What's the update on Tom Hardy and MobLand?
Tom Hardy is set to return for MobLand Season 3 after a bust-up with producers.
Which episode number is this in the Pilot TV Podcast series?
It is episode number 396.
What do subscribers get with Pilot TV+?
Subscribers get an extra episode every week, early access to new episodes, and an ad-free listening experience.

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